Bully or BullShit

[CASH]

I went to the pet store today and ran into a lady I know that has a 4 year old female pit bull. While talking with her a guy comes in with a little hippo.
He makes his way over asking us about our dogs and making add judgments about my dogs blood lines. He then proceeds to tell me that his "pit bull" is a new style of "non-game pit bull" He then tells me that they are called american bully and that its a new redgistered breed.
All that is to ask is the american bully now a redgiserable breed and what club is doing that?

[PullDawgPits]

ABKC

Stephanie

[Dansgrizz]

Abkc American bully kennel club
Abba American bully breeders association

Both jokes in my opinion. Atleast the bullys have a home now.

[CASH]

OK.. so they do have a club. Anyone can join?

[Dansgrizz]

Yes and they'll even help you make up a pedigree LOL and the shows are rediculously expensive.

[CASH]

Sweet Deal.... im puttin 20 punds on Cash and making up a pedegree.

[Dansgrizz]

Hahahahahahahahahahahha

[Leon]

Cool, i thought bully's aren't a registered breed. Wait, maybe i spoke too soon, so they are only registered in a "bully" club. Czar is registered as a APBT, i want to change that to bully, i dont think that is possible.

[Dansgrizz]

im sure you can register him with one of those registries but Bully isnt a breed in AKC, UKC, or ADBA. The AADR might have a Bully standard for APBT.

[Leon]

I think they need to recognize the bully, so people can stop false advertising and registering them as APBT's.

[smith family kennels]

they are trying to see them as a seperate breed but they cant get the standard set cause there are so many different types

[razors_edge]

I think they need to recognize the bully, so people can stop false advertising and registering them as APBT's.

exactly......i own a bully but shes registered as a APBT in the UKC papers....i think that the ukc should recognize the bully instead of makin up their own registries

[Leon]

That is also one of main reason i ended up with a bully, i was researching APBT's, and everyone who had a bully was a advertising there dogs are APBT's. So it gave me and many many others a skewed view of what a APBT should look like.

[razors_edge]

hey leon u got a pic of ur Bully

[Leon]

He is a puppy. He is all over this thread (http://mypitbullpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62).

[razors_edge]

damn these stupid school computers dont let me see pics im have to wait till i get on my laptop

[ForPits&Giggles]

Thats why its so important to do the research, and know where the parents come from before you get a pup. "Papers" are just that, paper..

[Leon]

Thats why its so important to do the research, and know where the parents come from before you get a pup. "Papers" are just that, paper..

See, thats the thing though, when everyone is advertising their pups as APBT's and not Bullies, your research gets skewed. When you look at the parents and they are Razors edge or Gotti, and people advertise and register them as APBT's. So for the first time owner, heck these are APBT's. To get to the truth you really have to dig deep into the history of each individual bloodline. But such information is not so readily available. And people wouldn't even bother to look for them because if all bloodlines are advertised as APBT's whats the difference.

[razors_edge]

Thats why its so important to do the research, and know where the parents come from before you get a pup. "Papers" are just that, paper..

yeah u can wipe ur Azz with them if u want, damn that would hurt though

[allaboutpitbull]

i think it is the greatest thing they can do make their own bullie registry and stop calling bullies APBT i think it's F***ing alsome now i just hope every one that has one stop calling their dogs APBT mabe in like 5 years we wont have the blue wale problem no offence bullie people All dogs need love, but its important to realize that you may well be supporting poor breeding practices if you buy from someone pushing "XXL pits," or those of "superior size." Beware also breeders who boast about thick chests, low-stationed bodies, huge heads, females which are manlier than other kennels’ males, and the like. This breed was never intended to be huge, and the standard describes a medium-sized dog with a preferred weight range of 30-60 pounds. These dogs were forged as the ultimate athlete, and any attempt to exaggerate their features can only detract from the breed. You owe it to yourself to research thoroughly if you are thinking about buying an APBT bred for any of these traits

[kumhomomma]

Till i joined GO pit I didnt know a true APBT all you see here is bully

[Leon]

Till i joined GO pit I didnt know a true APBT all you see here is bully

Yes, same here. Till i joined the forums, i just thought pit bulls just came in all shapes and sizes lol. I have come across many bully kennels where they advertise their dogs are true pit bulls.

[StaffyDaddy]

About registering with the ABKC.. It's 20 dollars, and like Dan said they do let you make your pedigree... How does THAT help establish a breed??

Neela sent her papers in around the middle or March (i could be off) and still hasn't gotten as much as a phone call back. Seems silly to send in even 20 dollars after an experience like that.

[kumhomomma]

i have NEVER seen a true APBT who was not bully...=0( I've seen kinda bully and super bully thats it

[StaffyDaddy]

i have NEVER seen a true APBT who was not bully...=0( I've seen kinda bully and super bully thats it

I have. The sad thing is people think that 130 lb dogs are just XXL pits, so obviously it makes a true game dog look like a little lanky dog in comparison.

[kumhomomma]

I have. The sad thing is people think that 130 lb dogs are just XXL pits, so obviously it makes a true game dog look like a little lanky dog in comparison.

here that 100+ pounds is all you see moe gets SO many looks since he is got huge head but stacked in body not round

[LiiL_L0cz]

i ALWAYS get questioned as to wat kenya is.... they think she is a chi mix lol....

[vdubbinya]

*sigh* :( Always the same discussion. ---shane

[smith family kennels]

the ukc will never beable to set them as a different breed if they can not come up with a standard. There are to many different types and sizes of bullies for them to make a set standard that is why it will probably never happen. In order for it to happen the Bully breeders are going to have to pick a standard and stick with it instead of breeding for extremes.

[StaffyDaddy]

the ukc will never beable to set them as a different breed if they can not come up with a standard. There are to many different types and sizes of bullies for them to make a set standard that is why it will probably never happen. In order for it to happen the Bully breeders are going to have to pick a standard and stick with it instead of breeding for extremes.

that's a wonderful point. You have to think about all the different breeds that are used to cross and if you were just crossing one thing exclusively with another, and more and more dogs carried similar traits and characteristics, I could see the ukc recognizing it. The problem is people always want "bigger and badder"

[PullDawgPits]

but really, isn't the truth is that because the bullies are still not that many generations removed from being crosses they aren't breeding true or consistant?

I mean, they are obviously crossed and it hasn't been that long so there are gonna be some major differences for many generations. That is why on some you can still tell what they crossed with Neo, EB, AB etc. It is still apparent.

Stephanie

[smith family kennels]

very true steph

[american_pitbull13]

The UKC has no reason to register the American Bully.

From: Steve Redmond of the UKC
Creating a new breed which has no unique purpose other than to make money for breeders as the result of a fad is not in the best interests of the registry.
These dogs are simply exaggerated examples of APBTs that are outside of the parameters of the breed standard.
The problem is that to register these dogs as American Bully dogs would require the inspection of all the living dogs in our registry to discern which are "Bully" and which are APBTs. This is a HUGE, logistically impossible undertaking.




In other words, the UKC has nothing to gain by creating a new database of bully dogs. Only breeders who can advertise their dogs as UKC registered would gain anything....


This is from another UKC board member
What it really comes down to, is that a group of individuals who are breeding a TYPE of dog that is OUTSIDE the specified breed standard for that breed are WHINING, that they want their own breed.

Well...it takes decades of dedicated breeding to develop a new breed. Not just 3 generations, or 20 years. It takes 50 or more in many cases to totally develop a new breed.

IF you want a new breed SO badly, then Do what is required to completely and totally develop that new breed and STOP badgering the UKC to recognize that, which at this point, only classifies as dogs that do not meet the standard for the breed they are.