multiple dog households

[kumhomomma]

I need advice.Here is where I stand as of now.Kumho is pretty much become a inside only dog as of this week.He has not been crated in over 48 hours and I cant even tell you the last time his kennel was used.He doing great.I got GIovanna (8 week old puppy) on impulse from a guy who had her crated 24/7 and covered in urine burn.I know I had puppy fever and all prior to getting her but had no intentions of getting another dog BUT YEAH we wont go there.Now I am wondering if I am not setting up for complete failure.I see all the house's with multiple bullies.Can that really be without the issues I had prior with Pirelli? Remind you until she was fixed I had NO issues with DA.She got fixed and flip out (she was 6 months at fixing and 8 when she went down).I know deep down Gi was more less a attempt to fill the void in my heart loosing Miss Pirelli.GI does alot of same thing Pirelli did and i love every minute of it.I'd hate to see her hurt or dead.I know the cage rotate always a option but thats a BIG pain in the ass.Should I stop now and come to my sense's and find her a great home or attempt it and see how it goes?Second off just clicked in my head she a female that means she needs to be fixed.Do i need to worry about her flipping out like P? I mean no one mention that having her fixed could make her aggressive.She went off on Kumho,her new home daddy,neighbors dog at new house(i tried getting her to a one dog house her ass came back to me)her favorite kid she got snappy with nothing horrid,animal control and finally me. So this was more then just DA after her being fixed.Now im scared to have female fixed.I swore id never have another female dog and I got her.SO to wrap this up..ideas...advice NOT NEEDING SMART ASS COMMENTS

[Dansgrizz]

Since kumho and pirelli share the same genes he should be fixed, He has potential for HA. No need to breed that. G should be fixed also. I higher level Of responsibility is asked of owners of bullies and APBTs. Be prepared to excercise this responsibility. There is nothing wrong with crating a dog. Why not crate and rotate? Do what needs to be done.

[kumhomomma]

Pirelli was FINE till fixed.I still don't believe it was genes, as if so kumho and the rest of litter would show something.Nothing like that in the litter of Kumho as I know where they all are.Who said anything about breeding? I wont breed kumho BUT he isnt getting fixed either.I am scared to get G fixed thats why I was ASKING others about the procedure and risk of female going off.There is nothing wrong with crating a dog but when the dog becomes able to control them self there is no need for it.What im asking is the secrets of multiple dog homes that helps things run smoothly

[kumhomomma]

Since kumho and pirelli share the same genes he should be fixed, He has potential for HA. No need to breed that. G should be fixed also. I higher level Of responsibility is asked of owners of bullies and APBTs. Be prepared to excercise this responsibility. There is nothing wrong with crating a dog. Why not crate and rotate? Do what needs to be done.

ANY DOG has potential for HA and DA...so yeah

[Dansgrizz]

I believe crating a dog is necessary no matter what. Crating has nothing to do with control andvsince your clearly not open to advice I wish you good luck. Crate n rotate is my "secret to success".

[kumhomomma]

Im open to advice but you have yet to give me any worth a crap.THANKS and I never said crate and rotate not a solution but if i can avoid it I will and asking advice on how to avoid it since this page has many multiple dog house not how I need to fix my dogs.I do have questions about female being fixed but mention of male being fixed was NEVER said.

[PullDawgPits]

Any house hold with multiple APBT has to crate and rotate in some form be it in the house, kennels, chains whatever you can't ever leave your dogs together unsupervised, it is just irresponsible. It doesn't matter why Pirelli turned on and the truth is that it is more likely that Kumho will turn on than not. There are a few that never do but they are rare.

If you wish to own more than one then you must be prepared to keep them separated, you must also be prepared to house a dog that is harder to keep in than most breeds. What P did coming out of the kennel was not surprising to me at all, they are great climbers, escape artists etc.

As for getting fixed making her DA? Probably it wasn't the procedure that brought it out in her but the stay at the vet's office. Just my opinion.

Stephanie

[APBTMOMMY]

Any house hold with multiple APBT has to crate and rotate in some form be it in the house, kennels, chains whatever you can't ever leave your dogs together unsupervised, it is just irresponsible. It doesn't matter why Pirelli turned on and the truth is that it is more likely that Kumho will turn on than not. There are a few that never do but they are rare.

If you wish to own more than one then you must be prepared to keep them separated, you must also be prepared to house a dog that is harder to keep in than most breeds. What P did coming out of the kennel was not surprising to me at all, they are great climbers, escape artists etc.

As for getting fixed making her DA? Probably it wasn't the procedure that brought it out in her but the stay at the vet's office. Just my opinion.

Stephanie

That does make good sense Stephanie ....

[kumhomomma]

Any house hold with multiple APBT has to crate and rotate in some form be it in the house, kennels, chains whatever you can't ever leave your dogs together unsupervised, it is just irresponsible. It doesn't matter why Pirelli turned on and the truth is that it is more likely that Kumho will turn on than not. There are a few that never do but they are rare.

If you wish to own more than one then you must be prepared to keep them separated, you must also be prepared to house a dog that is harder to keep in than most breeds. What P did coming out of the kennel was not surprising to me at all, they are great climbers, escape artists etc.

As for getting fixed making her DA? Probably it wasn't the procedure that brought it out in her but the stay at the vet's office. Just my opinion.

Stephanie
LET ME clear this up when im NOT home they will be crated...i never thought about the vet office but she was only there 5 hours and crated..hum..but thats a idea..What i wanting is to know if there a chance that 2 dogs can be in the home with me without issues while im home?I know when i leave G will be crated and so on.Up to this point i was all about keeping them seperate but now u see all the photos and so forth and its like how do they get them together like that...

[APBTMOMMY]

I understand what you are asking kumho... Those wonderful pictures that you see with peoples dogs all laid up with each other and looking all cute and cozy with each other I'm sure is "what I am going to assume" very rare moments. Which is the reason why people take the picture. I don't think that It would be possible to have multi dogs and NEVER have a problem. Maybe in a perfect world, but lets face the world is far from perfect. That just my opinion maybe someone else will chime in and help you answer your question better.

[Dansgrizz]

sure kumhomomma there is a CHANCE they can be together without incident, there's an equal if not greater chance they WILL have an incident. Why risk your dogs health because you don't want to do something?

You will spend much more time and energy watching and maintaining the situation with two pit bulls loose in the house than if one was crated or outside playing.

My dogs spend all day while I'm at work In their yards.(seperate yards) No barking, no digging, no problems....yet. When I get home they both come in for naps in their crates. Then walks food work etc.... At night they alternate everyhour on the hour crate n rotate. Works great.

[Leon]

If you are going to be home, and you can supervise them at all times, then its ok. But i would keep them separated if you cant watch them. Probably keep them in different rooms. But at nights, definitely crate one or both of them, or rotate.

[kumhomomma]

thats how im feeling and truthfully it getting at me on if i did right getting G and if I'll be able to keep them safe..I know kumho a lover not a fighter and im scared that another battle will change his views and he start going off on everything,as of now he pretty much laid back big boy.We take him EVERYWHERE and he does GREAT.He is amazing with puppy but i assume that will change with time.Then my other fear will be that everything goes great and I get her fixed and she has to be put down to.=0(

[kumhomomma]

I got 2 crates..2 kennels outside with wired on tops and concrete bottom, a fenced in yard(privacy fence coming in um i think 37 days,i lost count) I got the means to rotate but at what age do i do all that? as of now the puppy and kumho love on each other and sleep together as much as they can

[Dansgrizz]

If you are going to be home, and you can supervise them at all times, then its ok. But i would keep them separated if you cant watch them. Probably keep them in different rooms. But at nights, definitely crate one or both of them, or rotate.

I'm sorry leon but as an owner of multiple dogs I would not reccomend this. It may work for some sometimes. Why roll the dice?

Never trust a pit bull not to fight......EVER.

[kumhomomma]

I see everyones side and truely thank you for info.

[kumhomomma]

sure kumhomomma there is a CHANCE they can be together without incident, there's an equal if not greater chance they WILL have an incident. Why risk your dogs health because you don't want to do something?

You will spend much more time and energy watching and maintaining the situation with two pit bulls loose in the house than if one was crated or outside playing.

My dogs spend all day while I'm at work In their yards.(seperate yards) No barking, no digging, no problems....yet. When I get home they both come in for naps in their crates. Then walks food work etc.... At night they alternate everyhour on the hour crate n rotate. Works great.

Fuck that ever hour crap..lol I don't move from 1 ish to 6..lmao I won't leave a dog in the yard, here you will come home to empty kennels.I guess im just now thinking about all the what if's and need to stop.Pirelli was in past can't do crap now but wonder but the fear is there and I guess it will always be.Anyone else have females have issues with fixin?

[PullDawgPits]

How old is Kumho? He doesn't look terribly adult to me.

The reason I ask is your statement"Kumho is a lover not a fighter" I just think you are setting yourself up for a big surprise. It is not uncommon for these dogs to not be DA one moment and turn on the next.

The responsibility of owning an APBT is HUGE and part of that is fixed or not they can't be trusted together. We have had dogs get out of an airline crate, chew through a door and get the other dog out of a crate just to fight and these are two dogs that grew up in the house together as pups. It just is what it is.

Stephanie

[Dansgrizz]

Maverick shoved his head through a fence to get grizz and "THEY LOVE EACHOTHER". I had to put in thicker wire fences, had to step up my repsonsibility.

[kumhomomma]

kumho will be a year on 29. Reason i say lover not fighter is because he let P eat his ass up twice and never fought back till she cornered me then as soon as i was safe he left her ass standing there all fired up.I DON'T risk kumho not to fight i know he will if something gets him p.o enough.I keep him leashed at ALL times and avoid conflict as much as I can.If he out and so forth he not allowed to greet other dogs and so forth except my friends dogs and even then Kumho and other dog leashed.(we sometimes run together)I keep him on a short leash and super caution with him and I think that my issue is that im over cautious and thinking into this to deep.I had plans to keep one inside one out and rotate...I guess ill just roll with that.What age do i take the two apart from each other?I let moe and Gi play with each other now and they snuggle and so on and yes it supervised.

[Dansgrizz]

Its different for everydog..... Since kumho is almost a year id say start getting worried... He is a bully and has potentially lower DA but i woulndt trust that grizz is a bully and wants a piece of the action all the time. I woulndt trust either dog with a puppy. Too small and fragile.

[smokey_joe]

Ok, I'll admit I haven't read the whole post so sorry if I repeat anybody.

Exercise the heck out of them every day. Walk them and play with them and wear them out. Any time you're not going to be giving them your full attention, crate them. Don't let them rough house with each other.

The best way to keep two dogs together happily is to never let them have the first incident.

[Phedra]

I think one of the most important things to remember is that your new puppy is NOT the dog that you just had to put down. I think it is great that you are already starting to get prepared for the worst but remember that if you have doubts about the puppy in the beginning and are continuously worried about them fighting it will eventually happen. I think you have a good sense of Kum already and you will know what is right and when.

If you are not into all the work and effort of crate and rotate if/when the time comes, I think you should give up the puppy now and find him a good home.

[LiiL_L0cz]

sooo, i have a multiple dog home. however, chyna is a mix so that probly pays a huge roll in the behavior. SO FAR, the girls get along GREAT! but i think its becuz i work the HECK out of kenya. And by the time we get home, i ahve to take chyna on her run, so the girls get very little contact, really.

i mentioned this before but, Chyna has serious DA for unfixed bitches. she cannot stand a intact bitch (kenya is intact). And kenya got into her first incident at the PD a few months back. So both girls have def showed some signs of DA. but my girls get along just fine. Now, call me careless or watever since the chill on the couch together, but i NEVER EVER have left them unsupervised together.

i really think it depends on the dogs, the ages and how hard u are working them. *shruggs* just my two cents

[Dansgrizz]

I work my dogs very hard and when they are pumped full of testosterone from a hard work out since working out increases the testosterone levels 200% their DA is more than ever....

[LiiL_L0cz]

I work my dogs very hard and when they are pumped full of testosterone from a hard work out since working out increases the testosterone levels 200% their DA is more than ever....

idk, maybe its different from male to female dogs... cuz kenya just wants to chilllllll after she gets home...

dont get me wrong, i dont just throw kenya and chyna in the house together after a hard workout.. i said, when i get home, chyna gets strapped up and we go on our run.. soooo kenya has time to chillout for about a hour

[Leon]

That is true while working out, but once the workout is over and the muscles start to relax, you get real tired. So yeah i am pretty sure while they are working and a little after they might be more DA, but give it a little time and they will be knocked out.

[Dansgrizz]

The problem with dogs with higher drive and more of a will to work out is they get addicted to adrenaline. They crave it and therefore after they are done working out and ARE tired they still seek a new place to get this adrenaline.... SUCH AS FIGHTS. Dogs are different than people and dogs bred for work are WAY different than people. I have to use relaxation techniques on both my dogs because afer they work they are PUMPED... the relaxation techniques i use are simple body massages which also help the muscles and joints and everything recover faster. I reccomend it to anyone and honestly if your dog is working that hard it is necessary. I also like to cool down for aslong as i worked them, 10 minutes on a mill = 10 minute walk 10 minute massage... my massages never go for more than 15 minutes though but my work to cool down ration is always 1:1. If your dog reaches maximum stress it is necewssary to provide an oulet for them to cool down, You cant just dump them and let them cool, its unhealthy.

[Leon]

Yes, but your muscles work the same way. When you work them out real hard, your muscles stretch and have micro tears. After the work out, your body starts to repair your muscles, thats why they say when you weight train you burn calories all day long, thats because your body is doing work repairing your muscles. Everyone regardless of species gets tired after a long hard work, some take longer than others. If your saying if your dogs are still full of adrenaline, then they are not tired et, so you have to keep working them. When i go lift weights, i know for example, i can lift 205lbs 8 times, but if i do it two times, my adrenaline is just getting pumped, and if i stop then i want to keep going real bad. But if i do it 10 times, i get real tired and want to rest a bit. I agree with the relaxation and massage, after the workout your muscles are really stuff, you need to relax them, because if they are stiff there is a higher risk of injury via pulling them or spraining them.

[Dansgrizz]

When you work your dog to maximum stress... you should not work them anymore. If you do you will cause injury! Some dogs get tired after this and just pass out(go to sleep). Other dogs the recover very quickly are immediatly looking for more work. I really dont care to argure with someone who doesnt work his dog.

[LiiL_L0cz]

Yes, but your muscles work the same way. When you work them out real hard, your muscles stretch and have micro tears. After the work out, your body starts to repair your muscles, thats why they say when you weight train you burn calories all day long, thats because your body is doing work repairing your muscles. Everyone regardless of species gets tired after a long hard work, some take longer than others. If your saying if your dogs are still full of adrenaline, then they are not tired et, so you have to keep working them. When i go lift weights, i know for example, i can lift 205lbs 8 times, but if i do it two times, my adrenaline is just getting pumped, and if i stop then i want to keep going real bad. But if i do it 10 times, i get real tired and want to rest a bit. I agree with the relaxation and massage, after the workout your muscles are really stuff, you need to relax them, because if they are stiff there is a higher risk of injury via pulling them or spraining them.


I also agree, good job on the relaxation techniques dan, that will be useful for alot ppl new to working their dogs...

but back to the OP, i personally am having success with my two girls interacing.

chyna
*age: roughly 3yrs
*fixed
*petbull

Kenya
*age:1yr
*intact
*working dog

but i dont know if itll work for u ya know.. I say give it a fair shot, BUT dont be oblivious... u know wat ur doing with ur dogs. But i would also say fix the New pup if all those negative traits are in the blood, and just keep a cuatious eye

[George Bailey]

I micromanage my dogs; all of their time when not confined, is quality time with me and centers around teaching and building our relationship. This means controlling not only their physical actions, but emotional ones, too. Interactions with other dogs are limited to walking on leashes from one place to another, verbal introductions, occasional nose to nose contact, and training with a group of dog savvy owners. I want them to look to me for all reinforcement. Watching two dogs snuggle up or play is endearing but can result in a bond which is difficult to compete with. It can result in a build up of adrenalin or overexcitement which may end up being a rehearsal to fight.

All (my) dogs earn their freedom and are prevented from learning and engaging in behaviors which are not safe or do not fit in with family life or future plans. There is no bad behavior, there is only behavior we like and which fits our lifestyle, and that which does not. If dogs are not protected from engaging in 'bad behavior', this is what they learn, and we have enabled them to do so.

George Bailey

[kumhomomma]

kumho comes in from his "work" flops on the floor and lays on vent for two hours or so so much for fighting...lol he is overworked bully i guess i assumed he was just lazy..lmao

[kumhomomma]

Ibut i dont know if itll work for u ya know.. I say give it a fair shot, BUT dont be oblivious... u know wat ur doing with ur dogs. But i would also say fix the New pup if all those negative traits are in the blood, and just keep a cuatious eye

Negative? the new pup has nothing neg. that I know about..Kumho and litter been fine ONLY one to go nutts was Pirelli.There 2 females in litter that also fixed and doing fine.I now wonder if something didnt happen at vet.I hadnt thought about that till steph mentioned it

[FloorCandy]

My suggestion would be to alter both dogs as an altered male and female have the highest chance of getting along, but there are definitely no guarantees. I think that your dog turned aggressive after being spayed because she probably had a bad experience at the vet, and it was a coincidence. I have never heard of a dog turning DA from being altered. It is also possible that while she was sore and recovering Kuhmo accidentally hurt her by bumping her the wrong way or something. I would definitely have both altered, and keep separated on crate rest for the first day or 2, and then keep separate for a couple of days, rotating so there's no chance of excitement and injury. If your dogs get along, that's great, but if you go out they should be separated, either in crates, or one inside one in the yard, or use baby gates, just to make sure. Kuhmo is also getting older, and is at the perfect age to start showing DA, so you have to keep an eye on him. I would exercise extreme caution, and let them earn priviledges like supervised play, with good behavior. You don't have to necessarily crate and rotate, you can separate with baby gates as well, if the DA isn't extreme. Sometimes they are fine if they are in different rooms, it is just direct interaction that triggers the fights, so just be cautious and err on the side of caution at the beginning, and see how it goes.

[Hallil]

I dont think a multi-dog household is impossible, but with these dogs it's not always easy and you have to be very aware. First thing I suggest would be getting both animals fixed (the female when she is old enough) because that will help you out alot. You've already stated that you're not planning on breeding your male, so there's no good reason not to. The proof is out there that as stated, your BEST chances of dogs that can get along are going to be an altered male, and altered female. I have never heard of a dog becoming aggressive after being spayed, like it sounds your last female did. However, there have been a couple suggestions as to why that may have been. Funny drug effects, bad experience, bad genetics, an accident of some sort, just because it happened to one dog certianly doesnt mean it's going to happen to your new pup. How many spay surgeries go perfectly fine??? So many more than the ones that go wrong.

If you want a successful multi-dog household you need to stack the odds in your favor and never let anything slip even a single time. That means doing things you're capable of to help your odds, altering all pets, crating while your away, having at least one of them in the same room as you at all times, having your eyes on them constantly checking to make sure that there is nothing to worry about. Also know your dogs body language, I have one dog that used to be EXTREMELY DA that will glance at me if another dog is annoying him, if I ignore that glance he will stare for a couple seconds until I notice and distract the other dog, preventing the start of a fight. It doesnt get past the point of that because I've intervined but I dont doubt it's possible that it could go to a loud growl, bark, snap, bite, or full out fight without intervention. It's my job to watch, my job to make sure my dogs dont have a reason to fight or the opportunity to let a small issue turn into a big one.

I have a household of 4 dogs, 2 will not take toys if you ask them too (tried, they are very not interested) and 2 that sometimes like toys. Never a fight yet, but I'm careful to not leave toys around. Bones are in their crates only, and crate doors are shut as soon as the dogs are in or out so no one can corner a dog in a crate. The dogs also share all 6 crates (share meaning they go in any 6, not 2 in 1 crate), they dont have their 'own special crate' that they could get attached or protective over. Nor do they each have their own special toy (for the younger 2) or bone, or anything for that matter. I OWN ALL of their stuff, and if I want it while one of them has it, they give. No exceptions. They've all learned this from the beginning. I also move my crates around the house, so it's not far to put a dog if I needed to in a hurry. If a dog starts to play rough, it's a time out while the other gets a training session. Maybe I'll teach it something silly just to waste time, but regardless it gets their brain off rough play. After 10 minutes I'll switch off and teach the other something. By then they've forgotten what they were doing before hand.

I'm home alone alot, and my dogs are only allowed loose in the house 2 at a time while it's just me. I live in a little house (which helps with watching them) but 4 large dogs loose in a small house is too much. I have a porch that was added on, so it's completely closed off (when I shut the door) where the other 2 can stay ( usually one crated, one loose) or I have a fenced in yard, as well as an outdoor chainlink kennel (with floor & roof.) My basement is also unfinished and cool in the summer, I have some agility stuff and a couple more kennels down there, another spot my dogs can stay to keep out of trouble. Depending on the dog, again, loose or crated. A couple people have already mentioned only letting them interact as a reward for good behavior, and make sure they know that that's what it is. A reward, a privilege, something that can be taken away if they dont earn it.

I think if you're careful and commited it can be done, as long as you watch. Discourage any unecessary play starting now with your puppy and watch your male for any tiny signs of anything different. Good Luck!!

[meganc66]

kumhomomma, if there IS a chance that Pirelli had a bad incident after her spaying at the vet, i'd recommend a mobile vet! We have a local mobile vet in my area that will come to your area, fix your dog in their van, then you get your pup back. i'm not sure of anyone that actually had this done personally, but i've heard of it from a couple clients, and it would diminish the time that they could have an 'incident', if you're worried about it.

[APBTMOMMY]

very good post hallil...;)

[smith family kennels]

I have a great life experience to share that might help you out.

Yolanda I raised from the day she was born. She has been through all the obiendence classes a dog can go through and some agility as well. She is the dog I take when I want to show someone a well behaved pit. She gets along with all dogs from little to big BUT if someone ever came at her even with a growl she will jump.

Dixie was great as a puppy was inseperatable from Yolanda. Yolanda was like her mommy. They hung out together from the day Dixie came home to the day Dixie turned. Dixie's second heat was when the DA kicked in and it has never stopped since.

These dogs would lay on the couch together with each other and you can ask steph give each other kisses in the show ring.

I knew one day it would probably happen but I was unprepared for it cause they got along so good. All it took was the first incendent. The first snap and now they can no longer be around one another. I even tired having Nate take dixie on a leash and me having yolanda by my side. Like I said yolanda is well trained and will not leave my side if I command her to stay there. Well we were in the yard. Dixie with Nate Yolanda with me by my side. Dixie got those ears up and that tail and was ready to go after about 15 mins out there and it was over jealously. Yolanda having remembered getting her butt jumped didnt back down and left my side knowing its a no no and knowing that daddy had dixie. It was on again but this time we had hands on dogs so that nobody got hurt. Well except me lol cause I stepped of the patio wrong.

In conclusion the best thing is never let it happen. Once it happens once it will happen again and you will never beable to have them in the same room with out it happening. Two best friends hate each other and why cause I was not ready for the day to come Cause i made the mistake of leaving them in the fence together when Dixie came in heat. Cause I didnt want my happiness to end. Cause I didnt want to seperate my two wonderful well behaved pits.

Yes Yolanda still gets along with other dogs but not all. She hates Dixie and she will go for any dog that even growls at her. They can not be trusted to get along with other dogs. Even the best trained ones. Remember I said she left my side when she knew she was commanded to stay. I can take her anywhere and let her greet other dogs but even I have to take caution with her cause I never know if the other dog will growl.

They may be in harmony know but I can almost guerantee you it wont last forever and be prepared. Try to pervent it all together. Dont let them play rough and dont take your eyes off and get ready to seperate soon. If not to soon by her first heat.

[PullDawgPits]

I have kinda of a similar story...

We rescued a red merle bitch (Magic) that had been abandoned without food and only rain water for two weeks. She was so thin and dehydrated that I stayed up for two days sticking my fingers and water and putting them in her mouth, she wouldn't eat or drink, she had already given up or was too weak. Well, she pulled through and was the sweetest thing ever, she loved everybody, got along with any dog, loved the kids etc. A typical pitbull except that she seemed to show no dog aggression.

I figured that she didn't have any DA because being a merle she obviously wasn't pure bred.

One day we were working her on the track, she loved to pull and a friend was there with their young dog. This dog and Magic started playing and got the zoomies and ran around etc. All perfectly friendly until that dog did like a play growl. That was all it took, Magic went after her and before we could get there and break them up she had literally eaten out the other dog's chest.

The other dog died before we could get her to a vet and I have NEVER made that mistake again.

Stephanie

[Lala]

Fuck, I'm going through puppy fever right now. My friend was giving away her little grey pit and it took every bone in my body not to take it. Never knew that there was a word for it so thanks, now I know that.

I have two pitbulls that are great together. They play fight but not anything serious. I think they know the boundries that we have set for them. They look at eachother as a pack, you know. Definetly if your home and there to supervise them then they should be absolutly fine. Just because you have two dogs now doesnt mean you can lock them up the whole time that their home, that's just ridiculous.

You said that you would crate them when you leave. Supervise them when they are together. Just do that and i'm sure everything will be good. Mistakes happen and you can eaither let them repeat themselfs, or learn from them. Clearly you are learning from the incident that happened w/ your dogs. Just watch them when they are together. Good luck with everything, I hope it works out. :)

[kumhomomma]

someone mention a mobile vet but here the deal.Pirelli got to vet at 9 was in procedure at 10:15 and home by 3:30 so i would have never seen the vet being the issue but hey who knows..i REALLY hope it was the vet and not procedure because i want GI Fixed.

[LiiL_L0cz]

someone mention a mobile vet but here the deal.Pirelli got to vet at 9 was in procedure at 10:15 and home by 3:30 so i would have never seen the vet being the issue but hey who knows..i REALLY hope it was the vet and not procedure because i want GI Fixed.

It would have never hit me that way either, but its a possibility.... just extra love when u get GI fixed, and extra rest time ya know...

theres alot of different advice going into this thread, and its all so usefull. I mean we have people with pure game dogs that got a long and then one day flipped it, and we have ppl who have mixbred dogs with the same story. I would just say do what u think is best but dont be oblivious, becuz what it comes down to is, you have pitbulls. "never trust a pitbull not to fight"


Note to self: second heat...... i gotta watch for kenays heat cycles (i mean i did the first time, but thanks for the reminder sfk) ;)