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kumhomomma
06-12-2009, 11:15 AM
Pits bulls impounded, 2 men arrested after Rome raidThe Associated Press Sign up for daily e-mail news alerts
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ROME, Ga. -- Two men have been charged with cruelty to animals, and 15 adult pit bulls and six puppies have been impounded after a raid on a residence in Rome.

Floyd County authorities say the dogs had been tethered to the ground with logging chains attached to car axles. They say many of the dogs were scarred, and one bore wounds from a recent fight.

Police Lieutenant Dana Collum says the scars are consistent with dog fighting.

Floyd County Jail records show that Dominique Porter and Marcus Beasley have been charged with 15 counts of misdemeanor cruelty to animals in the case.

Charles Simmons of Norred and Associates, a corporate security and investigation firm, says his company monitored the operation and worked with county authorities to organize the raid.

RoXy
06-12-2009, 11:36 AM
Wow......

My mom was telling me about that this morning. She saw it on the news and was surprised that it does really happen. But this just Strengthened her hatred for the breed........totally sucks!

Leon
06-12-2009, 11:37 AM
Good that those two dudes were arrested, bad because most if not all those dogs are going to be put down.

Dansgrizz
06-12-2009, 11:52 AM
There only proof was scars?! Sounds flimsy at best. Unless u catch two dogs in a box in holds. I don't see the use of a raid.

Leon
06-12-2009, 12:03 PM
Yeah, i thought of that, if there are 15 pit bulls in the yard, there is inevitably going to be a few yard fights.

Dansgrizz
06-12-2009, 12:07 PM
Yard accidents leon ;) car axles n logging chains sounds so ghetto but it's honestly the safest way to keep game dogs.

Leon
06-12-2009, 12:53 PM
But with pits, people always assume the worse. Its never innocent until proven guilty, its guilty unless proven innocent.

sw_df27
06-12-2009, 01:13 PM
yeah but even when your proven innocent by the time it's all said and done the dogs have already been put down............................

Leon
06-12-2009, 01:58 PM
Yes, its a sad reality. I think there needs to be a law that says, the dogs are only fully turned over to the govt once the person is convicted and sentenced for the crime.

kumhomomma
06-12-2009, 02:20 PM
nah on the actual news they had a "ring" of chicken wire and some lovely pictures of the "loosing" dogs.It was horrid.

Leon
06-12-2009, 02:42 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. Good that these guys were caught and will face charges. Too bad its still a death sentence for most of the dogs :(

CHATNJACK
06-12-2009, 04:14 PM
Ga News article & footage at link below,

http://romenews-tribune.com/pages/full_story?page_label=home&id=2704563-Animal+control+seizes+pit+bulls-+makes+two+arrests&widget=push&article-Animal%20control%20seizes%20pit%20bulls-%20makes%20two%20arrests%20=&instance=home_news&open=&

CHATNJACK

Leon
06-12-2009, 04:23 PM
There are two dogs in the footage with facial injuries, but other than that i did not see anything to claim there was dog fighting involved..correct me if i am wrong. Could those two dogs have gotten into a fight in the yard?

APBTMOMMY
06-12-2009, 04:42 PM
Call me krazy but why the in the hell would you have that many dogs in the first place...I understand breeding and what not (but the place wasnt sat up for something like that)....however that is alot of dogs. I dont know about the dog fighting i mean i didnt see anything that indicated they where fighting the dogs other than the two that may have gotten into a fight. I wasnt happy to see the way there was no food or water for them to eat or drink.I could understand a feeding schedual but they need water all the time. Especailly if they are out in the sun all day like that....I think that it was a good thing they got the dogs away from them however it is sad that they will more than likely put alot of them down :(

Dansgrizz
06-12-2009, 08:41 PM
OH MAN!!! dog fighting or not those people should have been brought up on dog cruelty charges. The yards were unkept(HUGE PET PEEVE!!!!) weeds everywhere! The chains weere WAAAAAY to short. Why do you need a dog run around a dog that is on a chain anyway?! The fences were in disrepair. Those "fighting dogs" were not in good condition. The wounds were not treated properly. F**KIN AMATURES!!! I dont condone the sport but COME ON if your gonna do anything DO IT F**KIN RIGHT!!! I hate a sloppy criminal.

american_pitbull13
06-13-2009, 04:52 AM
Anyone who keep a dog in a rabbit cage with puppies should not be owning animals.

CHATNJACK
06-13-2009, 06:24 PM
OH MAN!!! dog fighting or not those people should have been brought up on dog cruelty charges. The yards were unkept(HUGE PET PEEVE!!!!) weeds everywhere! The chains weere WAAAAAY to short. Why do you need a dog run around a dog that is on a chain anyway?! The fences were in disrepair. Those "fighting dogs" were not in good condition. The wounds were not treated properly. F**KIN AMATURES!!! I dont condone the sport but COME ON if your gonna do anything DO IT F**KIN RIGHT!!! I hate a sloppy criminal.

Dan, you took the words right out of my mouth!


Anyone who keep a dog in a rabbit cage with puppies should not be owning animals.

Those aren’t rabbit pens american_pitbull13 they are or rather they’re supposed to be, whelping boxes. Granted in my opinion they were poorly constructed and obviously very grossly neglected, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using a whelping box for a bitch with puppies or in heat if used correctly and properly maintained. I personally use whelping boxes for puppies and bitches in heat all the time. Here are a few examples of some below (these are not mine but very simular to the ones I use).

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/chatnjack/box7.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/chatnjack/box4.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/chatnjack/box1.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/chatnjack/box3.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/chatnjack/box2.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/chatnjack/box9.jpg

kumhomomma
06-13-2009, 09:47 PM
those look super small for a bitch to be in with her pups.Do you allow the bitch to come and go or leave them in it all the time?

CHATNJACK
06-14-2009, 12:53 AM
those look super small for a bitch to be in with her pups.Do you allow the bitch to come and go or leave them in it all the time?

Actually kumhomomma the ones pictured above are very spacious. Also please re-read my post as those whelping boxes pictured above are not mine however, they are very similar in design to the ones I use.

My boxes measure 5X12 and are more than adequate for there intended purpose, ie: whelping, raising a litter and for use as quarantine when in a bitch is in her heat cycle.

One big difference in the ones above and mine is that I do not use metal grating or green treated wood for flooring. Metal grating is to caulis on the paws and green treated wood contains formaldehyde and other lethal chemicals. Instead I use treated white pine that contains no harmful chemicals to humans or animals. A friend of mine turned me on to treated white pine a few years back and I’ve been sold on it ever since. Treated green wood has been banned for use in building decks all across the east coast because of formaldehyde and other chemicals in it that can be absorbed through bare human feet and the pads on a dogs paws.

CHATNJACK

FloorCandy
06-14-2009, 02:17 AM
I have no problem with whelping pens, my issue is the wire flooring. The wire flooring can really mess a pups feet up, and can give them problems long term. IMO those pups were also plenty old enough to be put in a regular pen, it is my understanding that the boxes are to keep predators away from pups that can be easily carried away, especially from birds of prey. Those pups seemed plenty old enough to be put in a run with their dam as they are too heavy for birds, and the dam can deter any other predators that might try to scale the pen..

NATE
06-15-2009, 03:44 AM
Dan, you took the words right out of my mouth!




Those aren’t rabbit pens american_pitbull13 they are or rather they’re supposed to be, whelping boxes. Granted in my opinion they were poorly constructed and obviously very grossly neglected, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using a whelping box for a bitch with puppies or in heat if used correctly and properly maintained. I personally use whelping boxes for puppies and bitches in heat all the time. Here are a few examples of some below (these are not mine but very simular to the ones I use).

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/chatnjack/box7.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/chatnjack/box4.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/chatnjack/box1.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/chatnjack/box3.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/chatnjack/box2.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/chatnjack/box9.jpg

frist off these are heat boxes nothing more if the bitch cant have ppl around her pup she and her pups should culd put to sleep sorry we have the wrong breed for oh its just :wtf: ever

if you cant whelp in your house why do you breed ??????????????

NATE
06-15-2009, 03:57 AM
and for this post it is bull shit
sorry yall need to get your heads out you asses
i have a working kennel and most of my dog have marks shit happens
yall need to wake up get your heads out your asses
APBT love to fight if you a true apbt mark's will happen

smith family kennels
06-17-2009, 01:37 AM
this is another case of accusation that can be nailed on any of us. I did not see any prove of dog fighting on that video. There were two dogs that they showed on that whole yard that had open wounds out off all the dogs they showed which looks to me was a result of a yard accident. They even put the purple cow medication on the dogs to help prevent infection. These things happen on kennel yards. All these dogs were healthy there were no signs of starvation. The only thing I saw wrong was the fact that the yard needed badly tend too. The could invest in a pooper scooper and a push mower. I do not like the fact that they had two litters and at least one pregnant bitch on the yard at the same time but that is not means to seize the dogs. I did not like the the heat boxes (whelping pens as some call them I would never use them for that myself all my pups are raised in my home) They should have had actual floors and not wire. With what they shown on this video they did not have the proof to take these dogs unless they had proof elsewhere cause it wasnt on that video. Just goes to show you how quick they can take your dogs from you

kumhomomma
06-17-2009, 09:47 PM
Before you say how useless and so on this post is.SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND open your eyes to OTHER News stories not just one posted.Like the one posted on my local TV.Sorry I can't find link.But there was barb wire "rings" and decaying dead dogs.Guess those were "breeding" dogs huh.Look at condition of those pins.Yes,some innocent people dogs are taken but look closer this time.THose dog needed removed.THe 4 ft chains,no shade,poop,and so on is clearly shown .IF ANYONE THINKS thats how pitbulls need to be breed,they need to get there head out there ass.:wtf: people

smith family kennels
06-17-2009, 10:20 PM
ok think about it like this do you think they should go to jail for dog fighting and all the dogs put down or do you think that they should be charged with neglect. This is what we mean by it can happen to anybody. These people are going on trial for dog fighting not for neglect and from what I can see its neglect not dog fighting two dogs with wounds is not enough for dog fighting that happens on peoples yards everday its called a yard accident. When I see a video like that I am not thinking of the wrong that people did Im thinking about the breed and those poor dogs. The requirements that those dogs will have to meet to be homed is way out there and over 90% of the APBT communities dogs would fail those text including mine so lets think about it like that. 90% of those dogs will be put down and for what cause they are pitbulls. Yes what the owner did is neglect but not reason enough to take the dogs away with out givening them the chance to clean it up they were taken away for fighting you can almost bet those dogs just lost their lives. If AC came in my yard I would go for dog fighting cause I own a treadmill, 9 dogs, leashes, chains, trophies, and a couple of my dogs have old scars from yard accidents am I a dog fighter well hell no but do you think A.C. really knows the difference. A.C. needs to get their head out their ass and quit killing innocent dogs

american_pitbull13
06-18-2009, 12:00 AM
Dan, you took the words right out of my mouth!




Those aren’t rabbit pens american_pitbull13 they are or rather they’re supposed to be, whelping boxes. Granted in my opinion they were poorly constructed and obviously very grossly neglected, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using a whelping box for a bitch with puppies or in heat if used correctly and properly maintained. I personally use whelping boxes for puppies and bitches in heat all the time. Here are a few examples of some below (these are not mine but very simular to the ones I use).




I understand that but those where nothing close to what you posted and nothing but crappy rabbit cages IMO lol..


I don't much care for the boxs you posted up but would not be complaining had they been in structures such as those.

Intentional dog fighting no I don't think so.... But just because they where not dog fighting doesn't make those conditions ok.

No food doesn't bug me.. I feed once a day no food is left out... No water in several areas gets on my nerves, way to short of chains ( I am not against chaining), And plain out not well kept. Just because its not the worst doesn't make it ok IMO.

Had this been the first time Animal control was out I think they should have had a week to fix the conditions before dogs where seized. And maintain better conditions.

NATE
06-19-2009, 01:23 AM
well since yall where watching the video so close
why am i the onley one that saw food on the ground and water that had knocked over (i bet AC kicked it over )
i never said those dog's where being treated right but
and a dogman would have a dog living that way someone in the game would go out there way to look like there on the up and up



this was nothing more than a BYB and none of us like the way the dog where being treated but most if all the dogs will be put to sleep so those jackass could get on the news and look like the dogfighting world is everywhere
and that means more bsl :mad:

they and to prove it before they put it out there

Lala
06-30-2009, 10:04 AM
15? And puppies?
Those poor dogs, I hope the dog fighter get's a good punishment.
Thankfully they caught him. I'm sure his capture saved some dog lives. One down, and a whole buch more to go.

NATE
08-09-2009, 11:35 AM
15? And puppies?
Those poor dogs, I hope the dog fighter get's a good punishment.
Thankfully they caught him. I'm sure his capture saved some dog lives. One down, and a whole buch more to go.


i know your young but that wasn't a fighting yard the dog's would be over weight till there keep (training time before a fight) and all would have mark's it was a byb with bulldogs nothing more

CHATNJACK
08-09-2009, 12:37 PM
15? And puppies?
Those poor dogs, I hope the dog fighter get's a good punishment.
Thankfully they caught him. I'm sure his capture saved some dog lives. One down, and a whole buch more to go.



i know your young but that wasn't a fighting yard the dog's would be over weight till there keep (training time before a fight) and all would have mark's it was a byb with bulldogs nothing more

You're absolutely right nate, "it was a byb with bulldogs nothing more".

NATE
08-09-2009, 12:47 PM
i hate when left wing peta demwitcrates try to make out like everyone that has a bull dog is a fighting them thats like saiing i got a gun so i am gone rob a store and yes the right have there own issues but nothing like the libs
i mean shit my bulldog don,t like other dog and you think all of them should be killed yet your barking cat bites ppl for coming in your house and you think this is ok ?

Dansgrizz
08-09-2009, 06:32 PM
Barking cat lol.... Those barking cats got long hair too, matches their hippy owners;)

NATE
08-10-2009, 04:58 AM
everyone watch dan he is one of those left wing nuts he told me bullies should replaces game dogs
so everyone can own a bulldogs and cats
i think he has been watching to much msnbc or drinking the wrong coolaid but i don't know make of ppl from cali they all seem odd to me

Dansgrizz
08-10-2009, 08:35 AM
Oh boy Nate!!!!!!! You are just fat mouthin!!!

NATE
08-10-2009, 02:45 PM
Oh boy Nate!!!!!!! You are just fat mouthin!!!


no i was bored and you where creeping around the site like always

kumhomomma
08-10-2009, 02:55 PM
LOCK THIS before it gets out of hand..PLEASE

s.mariegreene
08-10-2009, 04:48 PM
my dogs are on 15 foot chains, chained to car axels. but sh*t still happens from time to time. we rotate our dogs from chains to 10x10x6 foot kennels. Dirty has a few scars, he had them when we bought him. took him to our vet so our vet could document the scars was there when we got him. just watching my a**.